The Permaculture Podcast

    1901 – Organizing and Supporting Our Communities with Rhonda Baird

    Rhonda Baird, the editor of Permaculture Design Magazine and teacher and designer at Sheltering Hills Design, LLC., joins me to continue our conversation about creating change. In our first interview, we spoke about the way that we can work on ourselves as individuals. Today we move from the inside to the out with how we can organize and support others and our community.


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    In that frame, we look at the tools you can add to your toolkit to do this work and build your, and other’s, competencies. Some of those include Theory U, nonviolent communication, and dynamic governance (sociocracy). We also look at facilitation and what it means to step into a role of leadership.

    Find Rhonda at and Permaculture Design Magazine, which she edits, at

    What I keep coming back to from this conversation is that everything we talked about, from nonviolent communication to facilitation, and even leadership, are all skills you can learn. Though I’ve met a number of people who through charisma and their presence come across as natural leaders you can be taught how to lead others in the moment or on a project. This doesn’t require talent or exceptional abilities, just a desire to learn to lead.

    A resource that can help you with this is the book, The Leadership Challenge. Based on copious research of businesses large and small, this has gone through multiple editions and printings and is one of the best I’ve ever encountered on organizational leadership and development. This has influenced countless leaders over the years and was required reading during graduate school.

    This is well worth picking up, and I’m going to give away a copy of this and Giraffe Juice here on Patreon. Look for those in your feed on January 9 and January 8, respectively.

    2019 marks a new year, and I’d like to bring you new knowledge, skills, and resources. If there is anything you would like to learn more about, let me know.

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    Until we meet again, spend each day creating the world you want to live in by taking care of Earth, yourself, and each other.

    Additional Resources
    On Feedback – The School of Life
    The Four Agreements (Wiki)

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