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    1840 – Whole System Economics with Joel Solomon

    Where has our relationship with money and capital gone wrong as individuals and as a society? What do we have to do to get right with that relationship? In the last interview of the year, co-host David Bilbrey sits down with Joel Solomon to examine those questions and talk about how we can change the dominant economic system.


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    To cover all of that requires a wide-ranging discussion that includes wealth, politics, the commons, consciousness, care for those around us, and much more.

    Find out more about Joel’s work to return the balance between finance, capital, and economics at Find out more about Renewal Funds at

    As this is the final interview of the year and last episode before the holiday break, I’d like to leave you with three questions we’ll revisit again in a few weeks:

    What do you care about?
    What do you believe in?
    How much is enough?

    If you’d like to share your thoughts with me directly, leave a comment in the show notes, or at:


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    1. Jim DJim D
      December 20, 2018    

      Great interview!

    2. December 30, 2018    

      […] 1840 – Whole System Economics with Joel Solomon […]

    3. WesWes
      January 15, 2019    

      Interesting interview, but this guy missed the mark a bit on the origins of money. Debt: the first 5000 years has a great rebuttal on the popular myth about money being created as an exchange medium.

      • January 16, 2019    

        Hi Wes,

        The origin of money as shared by Joel Solomon I have heard referred to as the economists view of money, as both an origin for the creation of and a definition of currency. The one presented by David Graber in Debt is the anthropologist’s view. For an interesting discussion of this, and much more, I recommend Philosophy For Our Time Episode 70: The Fantasy of Money, from Institute of Art and Ideas.

    1. Anonymous on December 30, 2018 at 17:59

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