The Permaculture Podcast

    1811 – Designing for Disasters with Natural Building

    My guest today is Oliver Goshey, founder of the regenerative design and natural building company Abundant Edge, and host of the Abundant Edge podcast.


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    During this interview we talk about natural building and designing for disasters, including the nature of and increase in these problems; the role of our ecological impacts on what is occurring; what we can do to prepare ourselves for these eventualities; a better definition for what we should call a disaster; what we can do personally and systemically to bring about preventative change so we can be proactive rather than reactive; and why we need to abandon the concept of sustainability.

    Quite a lot to cover, but all applicable to your daily permaculture practices.

    Oliver and I did have another conversation not long after recording this one, in which he recorded me for an episode of the Abundant Edge Podcast on how we can live regeneratively without abandoning society.

    For Patreon supporters, I’m giving away a copy of the book Oliver mentioned, 
    The Hand-Sculpted House (Chelsea Green Publishing, 2002). Look for that in your feed on Wednesday, April 18, and I’ll draw the winner on Thursday, April 26.

    Not a Patreon supporter but want to enter? Go to, select the reward level that suits your needs, and sign up today.

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