The Permaculture Podcast

    1809 – Pushing Back: A Precautionary Tale with Philip Ackerman-Leist

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    The guest today is Philip Ackerman-Leist a professor at Green Mountain College and author of A Precautionary Tale: How One Small Town Banned Pesticides, Preserved Its Food Heritage, and Inspired a Movement, from Chelsea Green Publishing.


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    I’ve wanted to speak to Philip for a number of years, ever since first hearing him in an NPR piece about Green Mountain College. At the time I enjoyed the way he spoke about food and food issues, particularly the turn of phrase, “anonymous, pre-packaged meat” when referring to the way we are disconnected from the animals and plants we eat when purchasing them from a grocery store.

    Our conversation begins with how he came to farming and teach at Green Mountain College and then move into the story of Mals, a farming community in Italy that pushed back against the ingress of modern industrial agriculture. Throughout the conversation you’ll find suggestions for what one can do to engage in local, state, or national political action.

    If after listening to Philip you have questions or comments, leave a comment below or get in touch.

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    From here, the next interview is with Amy Stross to discuss how to grow in small spaces and work with our neighbors, pulling from her experiences at Tenth Acre Farm and writing her book, The Suburban Micro-Farm: Modern Solutions for Busy People.

    Until then, spend each day pushing back against the forces that destroy the world you want to see, and take care of Earth, yourself, and each other.

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    Now that David Bilbrey officially joined me as a co-host instead of his occasional role as a guest host, we’re working on getting him to some events to network and interview people who coincide with his interest in the intersection of business and permaculture.

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    A Precautionary Tale (Chelsea Green Publishing)
    Philip Ackerman-Leist (Green Mountain College Faculty Page)
    Toppling Goliath: How Mals became the first town in the world to outlaw pesticides
    Green Mountain College
    Brunnenburg Castle (Wiki)

    1 Comment

    1. MichaMicha
      April 16, 2018    

      That was great. Lots to think about, including getting myself a copy of the book. Thanks

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